To:    Guardian CiF
Re:    After c. 14 billion years of cosmic evolution, is humankind to commit self-genocide?
Date: Tuesday 13 February 07

In response to the Guardian article, "The multiplication factor" by David Cox on problem of human population growth in respect to global warming.

Link to article and thread at The Guardian.
 

After c. 14 billion years of evolution since the Big Bang, has the universe finally started to become aware of itself in some human beings only for them to consciously observe (and meticulously monitor) their own self-destruction, while impotently squabbling about who is to blame and what can or cannot be done about it?

Surely not?!

Yet David Cox, it seems, has already thrown in the towel, contenting himself with unconstructive commentaries on the situation as a ruthless Mother Nature (who is still only just "warming up" for the job) solves the "Sustainability Problem" for us, as she does for all other species.

One thing is for sure (and this, I suspect, is where David Cox derives his pessimism): we are never ALL going to agree, even on what exactly the problem is, let alone what we want to do about it. And we hope in vain for the emergence of great leaders who will coerce us all into doing what is necessary.

What we CAN do, however, now that we (in the West) have the freedom and the technology (Internet, biometrics etc.) to do it, is SELF-ORGANIZE ourselves into a multitude (as many as there is a need for) of "religious societies". "Religious", not in its usual sense, but in its literal sense of "to bind together" (L. religare), whose who have enough in common to act together, and feel they belong together, not seeking to "exploit" each other, but tapping into the potential and "enthusiasm" that is within us, giving it rational direction (rather than the irrational direction and dubious purposes of conventional religion).

Once the open-source software is developed and made available it will be possible for individuals to self-organize into groups, groups into groups of groups, etc. Just as atoms and molecules have the potential to self-organize into living organisms, so too (I speculate) do human beings have the potential to self-organize into just, humane and sustainable societies, themselves with the potential to self-organize into a diverse, just, humane and sustainable global society.

At the moment, we have those on the Right, who put their faith in (and money on) free markets (which I'm sure cannot possibly work, because rooted in our dumb-animal nature and behaviour, which will continue the Darwinian struggle, for which it evolved, to self-destruction), and those on the Left who want to organize multi-mass society on a national (or supranational) scale, according to their own pet ideologies (and in a more devious kind of way are also largely driven by their dumb-animal nature, using the power of the "moral high ground" rather than of money to their own advantage).

If I had to choose between the two I'd go for the former, for the same reason that I favoured the capitalist West over the Communist East, preferring to see us go out with an honest bang than with a politically correct whimper!

But there's a third way. At least, I think there is, which is surely worth giving some thought to. We've nothing to lose, and possibly a whole world to gain.

 

2nd Post
 
[RameshN], "The economy cannot employ all the new entrants into the workforce".
 
So long as we see things from such an "economic perspective", we will continue on our fateful course towards oblivion.
 
Why does the East follow the West in this MADNESS ?
 
I suppose, because we belong to the same "prime-ape" species: Homo stupidus economicus.
 
Western natural sciences (models of physical reality) VERY GOOD. Western social sciences (models of social reality) BLOODY AWFUL!!
 
We are bound (but not unalterably) to see things from an "economic perspective", because the economy is what we are immersed in and absolutely dependent upon in the artificial, "socio-economic environment" that has effectively replaced the natural environment as the venue for our continuing, blind, dumb-animal, Darwinian struggle for survival and advantage. Recognise that and what we need to do (if we want a future for our civilization) starts to become apparent.
 
Sorry to keep banging on about this (my "evolutionary, anthropological perspective") but it's important.
 
 
 
3rd Post
[RossCopeland] (see post below), Where do you think the "economic forces" that formed and now drive free-market capitalism derive from, if not from mankind's own (more animal than human) nature? And I'm not just referring to "socialization", but behaviour that evolved over millions of years.
 
As a European, I make no apologies for being rather "Eurocentric" in outlook. Not that I wish to impose my Eurocentricity on others. On the contrary, I wish that non-Europeans would take a more independent (more sustainable) attitude, instead of just "aping" us.
 
Africans are often ridiculed for having a "lazy nature", but (assuming it to be true) at least it is "sustainable", in contrast to the white man's insane behaviour. But instead of allowing Africans to develop a sustainable socio-economic order of their own (suited to their own histories, cultures and mentalities), we expect them to adopt ours in the process of globalization, which their leaders, of course, and others among them, are also keen on, so that they have access to all the beads and bangles of Western technology and industry - the processed booty from our plundered planet!
 
The sanity of African Bushmen in contrast to the insanity of Europeans (white South Africans) was beautifully and hilariously portrayed in the film "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World", I seem to remember.
 
I'm a Great White Ape myself, decidedly ethnocentric, but mercifully blessed with the ability (sometimes, at least) to laugh at myself and my own race (I don't know what the "human race" is. I thought we were a species).
 
My homepage: http://www.spaceship-earth.org
 

RossCopeland's post:

rogerhicks> I tend to agree with your first paragraph (post 427551) but I'm afraid that's about as far as it goes. Humans are *not* the problem, neither is 'human nature', whatever that may be? It is both terribly eurocentric and erroneous to assume that all human beings share the same 'nature' that has been shaped by centuries of socialisation in European culture - in which I also include the US and Oceania. Human 'nature' is culturally, socially and historically specific and social- Darwinistic reductionism does little to further a search for solutions to our present problems. We would do well to bear in mind that the real beneficiaries of our present global economy account for perhaps 3 percent of the human race.

The problem is Capitalism, specifically, corporate Capitalism. Whereby the most destructive tend to enjoy the most influential lobbies: Big Oil, the giant energy concerns, the motor industry, chemical industry, etc.

http://www.ross-copeland.com/political_ecology.html

Provides an overview of the problems and also some ideas for addressing them.