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In response to a Guardian article, "The linking of Britishness with religious identity", by the Rev. Ian Bradley
Link to
article and thread at
The Guardian.
[Lachlan],
The problem with using British
scientists and philosophers, or
generally anything from British
history that goes back more than 50
years, as a basis for "British
identity" is that it is all (> 95%) so
"hideously white", as Greg Dyke would
say, and understandably alienating (if
not offensive) to most of our ethnic
minorities.
I couldn't agree more, however, with what you say about Christianity: it's theology is a load of nonsense, which we need to put firmly behind us, instead of being so tactful about it for fear of offending someone. Still, at least you can be honest to Christians, and risk offending them, without the worry of getting your throat cut. However, Christianity has played an immeasurably important role in the history and culture of European (Western) civilization, and I have to acknowledge and respect the fact that my own ancestors believed in it. I believe we are wasting our time looking for a new sense of British identity, since it was always a MYTH (or rather, a LIE) anyway, created and forcefully maintained to legitimize and serve the power structures of this nation state and the self-interests of those who benefit most from them. The problem is that we ALL depend on these power structures, despite them favouring some far more than others. Even more importantly, they constitute a socio-economic order that is inherently unsustainable, on our finite and vulnerable planet, because deeply rooted in and dependent on our dumb-animal nature and behaviour.
My homepage: http://www.spaceship-earth.org
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[gadgie's]
Post: God! they're using God now to get Gordon Brown
into the pm's job. Britishness is finished get it! It finished
in Wales and Scotland and now it's finished in England.
ps can you tell me what Scotland will be doing to commemerate the end of the slave trade or were'nt they involved in it? |
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The reason some people want us all to dwell on white men's guilt, it is important to understand, is in order to exploit an advantage over him (from the "moral high ground").
I can understand and forgive black people (whose ancestors suffered slavery and live now in a society very much dominated by white men) for doing it, but I despise my fellow white men (and women) who would disown THEIR ancestors for the cheap advantage it gives them in the present political (PC) climate.