To:    Comment at the Guardian
Re:    The struggle for identity and belonging in multi-racial/multicultural Britain
Date: Monday 6 November 06

In response to the Guardian article, "The struggle for belonging" by Billy Bragg and one of the comments attached to it

Link to  article and thread at The Guardian.
 

1st Post

 
What a load of piffle!

It is difficult knowing how to respond to this article in a way that will not elicit the inevitable accusation of "racism"!

In fact, it is IMPOSSIBLE to respond without being accused of "racism", because by definition (in the New Multiculti Dictionary of Politically Correct English), anyone who opposes, rather than "celebrates" the huge and historic social, ethnic and cultural changes brought about by mass immigration and the creation of a multi-racial/multicultural society, IS a "racist".

I consider mass immigration into our already overpopulated country and the creation of a multi-racial/multicultural "melting pot" (into which, within a few generations, most of today's racial and cultural "diversity" will dissolve, i.e. be destroyed !) complete MADNESS (a baleful coalition of the capitalist need for cheap labour and naive Christian/Marxist universalist ideology, mixed with a good helping of social status seeking (the advantage of the "moral high ground") and political opportunism). Thus, by definition, I'm a "racist".

If I'd lived in medieval Europe and rejected the dominant Christian ideology of the time I'd have been condemned a "heretic"; in Soviet Russia, a "reactionary"; in McCarthy's America, a "communist". In modern, multiculti Britain I'm a "racist".

More of my views on multiculti MADNESS at http://www.spaceship-earth.org/Letters/Editor/Index-non-pc.htm

2nd Post
 

edelgado, Of course I know that Europeans are racially mixed, but they still form a fairly distinctive ethnic, cultural and historical group - which I just happen to belong to and identify with. Which doesn't mean to say that I don't like and respect many non-European individuals a lot more than I do some of my fellow Europeans (who include all the nastiest people I know of), or appreciate and respect their cultural achievements. But just because you cannot define race precisely (this is the mistake that genuine racists, like the Nazis, make) doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. For me - and many (I suspect most) other people - it certainly does, and furthermore, it constitutes an essential and central part of my sense identity and belonging.

I have NO sense of identity with or belonging to the multi-racial/multi-cultural Britain which has been forced on us in the past 50 years. I just don't. It is the way I feel. And I'm not going to be told by others how I should or shouldn't feel, when I cannot even tell myself. 200 years ago you would, perhaps, have told me that I must believe in Christ. Now you seem to be telling me that I must believe in mass immigration and multi-racial/multi-cultural society. But I don't. So presumably, in your eyes, I'm a "heretic" and a "racist".

3rd Post

"All the way back to the Magna Carta, our history has examples of people standing up for their right to be treated fairly". What an incredibly naive view of history you have, Billy. Which perhaps explains the naivety of your thinking in respect to finding a common sense of identity and belonging, whether in multiculti or multi-class (now defined by income differentials) Britain.

Our history is above all the history of individuals' struggle for survival and advantage. Not fairness! They might claim that when they are disadvantaged, but once they have gained an advantage (the greater the better!) they fight (nowadays, more inclined to lie and whine) to retain or increase it. Those early 13th Century barons felt "unfairly" treated by the king (doesn't your heart bleed for them?), which they sought to remedy through Magna Carta. And just how "fairly" did they treat their own vassals and peasants? This, perhaps, is where we get our farcical sense of "British" fairness from.

But I do not mean to be too critical. After all, these are my ancestors - even if they were arseholes.

But why were they, why are we still, such arseholes? Because we are "prime apes" (if you'll excuse the pun), Earth's "Greatest Ape", in fact. Officially, we have known this since Darwin published his Descent of Man in 18 hundred and whenever it was, but while it (i.e. the theory of evolution it derives from) has become the very foundation of natural, biological and medical science, no one has yet had the courage to apply is properly (in full measure) to the social sciences of history, politics, economics, sociology, etc. Why? Because historians, politicians, economists, and sociologists, like the rest of us, are totally immersed in and dependent on the socio-economic order (environment) in which they live. Even if, occasionally, one does manage to step outside the box and catch a glimpse of the extent to which past and present human society (and its economy) are rooted in our animal nature, it is unlikely that he or she will dare bite the hand that feeds them by reporting it.

So it is left to a non-academic, like myself.

4th Post
 
Those keenest on us having a shared sense of multiculti "British" identity are those who most profit from and depend upon it: the political, administrative, economic and (especially) the media establishment (some immigrants, too, but far from all), who together are in a very (up until now, overwhelmingly) powerful position. This is why any attitudes, like my own, which tend to undermine it, are immediately dismissed and suppressed as fanciful or "racist". Not because they really are fanciful or racist - they are not - but because this is the most effective means of dealing with ideas, attitudes - and people - who threaten the status quo (and all the nice niches that go with it). My attitude and ideas (not all, but many of which, I share with the "silenced majority"), were they to find widespread expression, would threaten the power structures of our nation state.

However, if we are going to save the planet from global climate change and the "Sustainability Problem" for our children and future generations, we have to have a revolution (rapid and radical change) anyway, so we might as well (in fact, we will probably have to) get rid of the nation state while we are about it. Notwithstanding the imperative of proceeding with wisdom and great caution when replacing (even with something much better) such powerful and important structures.

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